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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.11 12:50:42 -
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Lan Wang wrote:i like assault frigs and i hate t3d's, dont think they thought about assault frigs when they released t3d's, my answer to nerfing t3d's is either remove them or buff assault frigs so they can compete
I'd buff AF's before nerfing T3Ds simply because I like both but I agree 100% with your assessment... AFs are in a bad place but T3Ds are fun as F to fly.
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.11 12:55:24 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:There need to be more way that the enemy can exploit a T3Ds weakness in particular modes.
Without the modes they're just destroyers with relatively simple stats. But with them they surpass other ships at the role. Speed mode makes T3Ds faster than the majority of frigs. Defense mode makes them on par with cruisers. You can get some other frigs with similar tank but it takes a lot more bling with less turnover (22k EHP wolves exist, but not worth it when 22k +300HP/s svipuls do too for a cheaper price tag and the magical insurance they get).
For starters, the insurance needs to either go, or other ships need a similar trait. It's just too cheap to fly T3Ds. That's not to say that the insurance has no merit - it encourages you to welp yourself against unfavourable odds for the promised cost of a T2 frig but with the strength of a cruiser with frigate sized sigs and such. But that's not something that should be attached to T3Ds.
Base stats could be weaker. So that in a mode it's biased heavily to a particular role whilst being worse than average of the same size at other roles. And forcing a pilot to switch modes becomes a fighting strategy.
Hecate is the most balanced but shouldn't be the template for the rest. Having sentinels be the primary counter to this class is no better than it is now.
The solution to a T3D is scram+neut+web. Hecate is the most balanced?? I dunno, I'd say Confessor is more balanced than the Hecate... I'm confident they'll all settle nicely over time but I'm more concerned about the AF meta and where that's headed in the meantime.
Also, about T3 cruisers... I think they'll be the go-to until Battleship warpspeed is buffed.
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.11 13:00:34 -
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Valacus wrote:One of the problems with the Proteus and it's stupid levels of tank is the ability to fit 2 1600 plates. That's way too much PG to work with and still have room for a full rack of guns. And it still even has the ability to pick up the ewar bonus subsystem. 3 rigs doesn't exactly help the problem either. HACs can only fit 2, and medium tech 2 trimarks aren't even that expensive anymore.
Considering the amount of financial investment that it takes to optimize a Proteus, and the risk associated with losing that fit/hull/skill, I'd say it's in a good place. Regardless of buffs or nerfs players will shift the meta to new mins/maxes. The Proteus is strong across the board but it has serious limitations with power projection. Just my $0.02 YMMV.
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.11 13:01:54 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:edit: I should have a better attitude towards people.
Just check out 10mn fits and ultrathrasher fits, those are the real culprits. When you can comfortably go solo against cruiser gangs, something is off.
Not necessarily... what's the cruiser fleet comp?
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